tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12134022.post3346032035109358599..comments2023-09-16T04:36:51.143-05:00Comments on cheese is moldy milk: You don't have to say the N-word to be a crackerShawnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06247567992274342429noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12134022.post-86904195553950713602007-06-12T07:08:00.000-05:002007-06-12T07:08:00.000-05:00Editor's note: Steve B. likely comes to us by way ...Editor's note: Steve B. likely comes to us by way of the Journal Broadcast Group, perhaps while doing a weekly Google of 'Charlie Sykes'...Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06247567992274342429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12134022.post-89363048254806367252007-06-12T07:03:00.000-05:002007-06-12T07:03:00.000-05:00Steve B. - Mostly I'm venting because Sykes repeat...Steve B. - Mostly I'm venting because Sykes repeatedly does similar things. He starts with a reasonable statement and then goes five steps beyond to set up a straw man to bash liberals and Democrats. <BR/><BR/>It would be easy to do the same and say something like, 'that's why people get so mad at lawyers,' but that would have nothing to do with anything at hand. <BR/><BR/>I tend to be a liberal on most issues and I don't mind standing up and expressing my reasons for feeling how I do on issues. I also don't mind listening to other views as long as they are reasoned out. Sadly, it's been my experience that many conservatives - particularly those in the entertainment media - don't play the same way. <BR/><BR/>Also, I should say that believing that incarceration should be punishment and not a vacation isn't a view solely held by conservatives any more than believing in a God is. That - by the way - wasn't intended as a jab, but rather a claiming of a piece of the common sense pie on behalf of liberals. We will share the pie with you and might even bring ice cream if the conversation promises to be good. <BR/><BR/>Cheers.Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06247567992274342429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12134022.post-51715841761686963962007-06-12T02:42:00.000-05:002007-06-12T02:42:00.000-05:00shawn,Are you more upset by this guys failure to s...shawn,<BR/><BR/>Are you more upset by this guys failure to speak plainly, or by his generalization regarding ex-felons?<BR/><BR/>Cuz the "Republicans and conservatives" crack is a bit of a generalization.<BR/><BR/>I consider myself a conservative, but I agree completely that parolees should be able to vote, but incarcerated felons shouldn't. Kind of common sense.<BR/><BR/>I imagine a lot of conservatives would agree. <BR/><BR/>There are also a disproportionate number of hispanics in the prison system. So, rather than "blacks", he could simply be referring to minorities. Which is still a reprehensible "those people" kind of comment.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the thought is that progressives are more likely to want to soften up prison life by allowing all sorts of rights and priveledges that a more traditionalist/conservative view might think defeats the purposes of incarceration as a punishment.Steve Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11798539672493222588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12134022.post-64156211513648142502007-06-06T13:03:00.000-05:002007-06-06T13:03:00.000-05:00PNYC - True. How can we expect to re-integrate peo...PNYC - True. How can we expect to re-integrate people into society if we don't allow them to participate in the most peaceful, inclusive act available in our country - the ability to vote? But Republicans and conservatives can't think beyond punishment - it's too scarey for them.Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06247567992274342429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12134022.post-24841511335124552402007-06-06T09:41:00.000-05:002007-06-06T09:41:00.000-05:00Not letting people who have served their time is o...Not letting people who have served their time is one way in which theyare not allowed back into society. Even if they are not likely voters it sends a message them.<BR/><BR/>Its one thing that keeps recidivism rates at about 75%. If society doesn't want these people back, they think, then I will go on living outside of it.thephoenixnychttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07164230892526451260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12134022.post-60289901980200601442007-06-05T21:58:00.000-05:002007-06-05T21:58:00.000-05:00'...real discussions are "boring" and take time an...<I>'...real discussions are "boring" and take time and don't do well with commercial breaks...'</I><BR/><BR/>That's it exactly. I'm shocked to find there's hypocrisy in politics and the political entertainment media.Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06247567992274342429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12134022.post-22139562139461191472007-06-05T21:44:00.000-05:002007-06-05T21:44:00.000-05:00Most radio talk shows will only accept calls from ...Most radio talk shows will only accept calls from people who support them rather than have a real discussion - real discussions are "boring" and take time and don't do well with commercial breaks...<BR/><BR/>"By no means do I believe that those serving time should be allowed the privilege of voting while serving their punishment...." <BR/><BR/>I agree here. I also find it hypocritical that the the US Census counts inmates as part of the district of the prison, rather than their homes, thus taking resources away from the areas where these people come from (mostly poor areas). So they're recognized when it's convenient...<BR/><BR/>Some states do allow felons to reinstate their voting rights. I know Illinois does not, but it's certainly something that can be changed legislatively at a state by state level.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129109937230440481noreply@blogger.com